Posted by: Coach C () on Sun Sep 14 07:42:44 2003

Are there any correlations between a proper baseball swing and a proper golf swing? Or do the differ entirely?
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> > > For golf, I try to have a soft grip and a relaxed upper body. I turn away and turn back trying to keep the club on plane.
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> > > However, I also try to "release" my right hand (I'm right handed) through impact so that the toe of the club passes the heel. Further, I try to create "lag" in my golf swing ((where I keep the "L" shape of the relatively straight left arm and the club shaft)), so that I can create power and release the club late in my downswing to create the most clubhead speed. This might be referred to as a "whip-like" motion.
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> > > Do these thoughts work for a baseball swing? My first thought is no. But I'd like to hear a compare/contrast discussion from the expert.
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> > > Jon
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> > Jon,
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> > Having played both sports my whole life, here is my perspective. I'm sure you're familiar with the term "over the top", it has been my experience that baseball is equally plagued with this problem. In baseball the problem can be masked, because the bat head is round and allows for some mistakes, thus fooling the vast majority into believing they are doing well. In golf, there is very little forgiveness, because of the square face and the fact that golf is target oriented. In baseball I believe the stroke should be from in to out, but for me it doesn't occur from pulling the knob. There is a sense that this is occurring by casual observers, but for me it's caused by the turning of the torso and the clearing of the hips. My hands couldn't be any looser at the initiation of the baseball swing and in fact I feel a tremendous amount of power at contact from top-hand (I bat both). I'm a huge fan of Ben Hogan's teachings (three right hands). I most definetly have this feeling in my stroke. The lag or delayed release is something that I control by trying to go middle or even the other way. This mentality has kept me from releasing the barrel too soon and having the barrel come around the ball. In golf I create the same feeling by trying to take one side of the course out of play. I play golf right-handed and aim for the right side of the fairway, this allows my to draw the ball back towards the middle.
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> > Jack may comment, but I've heard him say that the hips need to clear more in baseball. I don't agree with that, to me the point is relative to the point at which one comes into contact with the ball. Golf, between the feet, baseball more towards the front foot on pitches down the middle.
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> > The same mechanical action that I do in golf, lower body balance, connection to the ground, figure eight weight distribution between the feet during the swing and effortless power is exactly the same for me in baseball.
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> > May I ask what your baseball backround is?
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> > Respectfully,
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> > Coach C
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> Could you expand on the 3 right hands comment?

A term Hogan coined for the feeling he had at the moment of impact. Hogan described the swing as passive hands throughout, but when they energy is finally transferred to the hands, the feeling was that the whole right side of the body was where the power was felt.....He termed it Three Right Hands.
One thought that I love for a rotational swing is to bring my back shoulder all the way through, replacing the front. There is no question that Bonds get's his back shoulder all the way through......Best I've ever seen.

Coach C