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Posted by: Phil C (procurementman@msn.com) on Wed Feb 12 17:52:55 2003

Phil C posted a question about how to get is daughter swinging up at the ball. The discussion got off topic. There were several responses but I really didn't get the sense of answers to my question.
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> > Do you really want an upward swing? I agree that you'd rather drive the ball than hit ground balls. AND you are more likely to hit the ball in the air with an upward swing. BUT that does NOT mean that an upward swing plane is preferred.
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> > My thoughts (assume a pitch not too high or low): An optimal hit is where the bat contacts the ball just below the center (with ragards to the flight path of the ball). In fast pitch the flight path of the ball can be rising, dropping or level. With baseball, the flight path is always dropping.
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> > With a level or slight downward swing plane, this optimal contact point results in a slight backspin allowing the ball to carry farther. Also, the contact zone is larger when the swing plane is the same (or nearly the same) as the plane of the ball (favoring a level swing).
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> > While an uppercut may result in better hits against a medium high to high dropball, a level swing should produce the best overall results.
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> > Ok experts, bring it.
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> My first thought is I think it's been proven that all pitches go down, even the rise ball (it just goes down less). I don't remember if that was talked about here or on another site. But I still think
the slight upswing is the best to match the plane even in softball.

>>To clarify my earlier question I indicated that I was trying to get my daughter to swing with a slight upper cut with the emphsis on slight. I also indicated that I was trying to get her to swing with the bat angled downward and her left elbow up which is the result of a lowered rear shoulder. Now, I know that won't often be the case if the ball is between waist and shoulder level. However, anything at the waist or below in my mind requires a swing with the bat angled downward and the rear shoulder lowered. I have seen it over and over again where a young player will bend their knees and lower their body to try and hit a low pitch. This then results in excessive head movement and loss of tourqe.

Phil C.

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> Phil C posted a question about how to get is daughter swinging up at the ball.  The discussion got off topic.  There were several responses but I really didn't get the sense of answers to my question.
> > > 
> > > Do you really want an upward swing?  I agree that you'd rather drive the ball than hit ground balls.  AND you are more likely to hit the ball in the air with an upward swing.  BUT that does NOT mean that an upward swing plane is preferred.
> > > 
> > > My thoughts (assume a pitch not too high or low):  An optimal hit is where the bat contacts the ball just below the center (with ragards to the flight path of the ball).  In fast pitch the flight path of the ball can be rising, dropping or level.  With baseball, the flight path is always dropping.
> > > 
> > > With a level or slight downward swing plane, this optimal contact point results in a slight backspin allowing the ball to carry farther.  Also, the contact zone is larger when the swing plane is the same (or nearly the same) as the plane of the ball (favoring a level swing).
> > > 
> > > While an uppercut may result in better hits against a medium high to high dropball, a level swing should produce the best overall results.
> > > 
> > > Ok experts, bring it.
> > 
> > My first thought is I think it's been proven that all pitches go down, even the rise ball (it just goes down less).  I don't remember if that was talked about here or on another site.  But I still think 
> the slight upswing is the best to match the plane even in softball.
> 
> >>To clarify my earlier question I indicated that I was trying to get my daughter to swing with a slight upper cut with the emphsis on slight. I also indicated that I was trying to get her to swing with the bat angled downward and her left elbow up which is the result of a lowered rear shoulder. Now, I know that won't often be the case if the ball is between waist and shoulder level. However, anything at the waist or below in my mind requires a swing with the bat angled downward and the rear shoulder lowered. I have seen it over and over again where a young player will bend their knees and lower their body to try and hit a low pitch. This then results in excessive head movement and loss of tourqe. 
> 
> Phil C.

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